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  1. First Real Life Look! 2025 Jeep Recon Moab 4xe Concept Shown to Dealers at Stellantis Event

    Heh, the 1970s are totally in right now so that's probably why.
  2. First Real Life Look! 2025 Jeep Recon Moab 4xe Concept Shown to Dealers at Stellantis Event

    I think you're spot on. Looking at all the pics and the video, there is definitely a bump out right there above the tail light. It's not a handle, but rather it extends outward so that the hinge can allow the window to swing and clear the tail lights. Very confident that's it. Now the...
  3. First Real Life Look! 2025 Jeep Recon Moab 4xe Concept Shown to Dealers at Stellantis Event

    Here’s a better closeup of the rear handle area. It’s got finger prints on it so I assume that means it’s functional here. That section in the bottom corner is a weather seal/protector as it clears the taillight. Definitely no obvious top hinges to allow the glass to go upwards like a wrangler...
  4. First Real Life Look! 2025 Jeep Recon Moab 4xe Concept Shown to Dealers at Stellantis Event

    Here’s the first shot I’ve seen straight on from the back. We can see the door handle here.
  5. First Real Life Look! 2025 Jeep Recon Moab 4xe Concept Shown to Dealers at Stellantis Event

    RE: the rear door. It sure looks like the door and glass are two different pieces. It also looks like the glass wouldn’t clear the taillights if it swung in the same direction as the door. That said, Doesn’t that thing that looks like a handle have to be a hinge cover? I can’t imagine that...
  6. First Real Life Look! 2025 Jeep Recon Moab 4xe Concept Shown to Dealers at Stellantis Event

    @DouglasMD Saw some of that stuff too. That sensor/housing at the top of the windshield is HUGE. The roof rails having a cross bar would be cool except if you had the sky one touch roof :) . The back glass is the most glaring difference from the renders. Will be interesting to see if it does...
  7. First Real Life Look! 2025 Jeep Recon Moab 4xe Concept Shown to Dealers at Stellantis Event

    Seriously doubt it. It's a dance of range desired <->Number of batteries needed <-> Size/weight needed to hold batteries. It sure looks like the Recon is Rivian R1S sized. Which is to say it's the size it is because it's the size needed to accomplish the goal. Reducing the size down to a 2-door...
  8. First Real Life Look! 2025 Jeep Recon Moab 4xe Concept Shown to Dealers at Stellantis Event

    100% for sure. Suckers like you and I are going to foot the bill for the automakers to build their platforms. I've just accepted it as an early adopter of new tech my entire life. That said, if the Recon is like most enthusiast EVs that have come out, you can reserve it, drive it for a while and...
  9. First Real Life Look! 2025 Jeep Recon Moab 4xe Concept Shown to Dealers at Stellantis Event

    Welcome! I think most of us would be pretty disappointed in less than 300m of range. It's probably the only thing that would prevent me from getting one. Well, that and a 0-60 of more than 4-seconds. I currently own a Model S Plaid and a Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited with Sky one-touch roof. I...
  10. First Real Life Look! 2025 Jeep Recon Moab 4xe Concept Shown to Dealers at Stellantis Event

    Greetings from Dallas, TX where it has been sunny and in the low 70’s for the last few days! I think you’re right about the air suspension. Seems like that’s the only option. They seem to be positioning the Recon to be the leading off-road EV. I can’t imagine they’d throw the tires from the...
  11. First Real Life Look! 2025 Jeep Recon Moab 4xe Concept Shown to Dealers at Stellantis Event

    Prediction: NY Auto Show will see the opening up of reservations for the Moab edition, which will be a maxed out first edition with all the boxes being checked. The only option available being the choice of a few basic colors. Wouldn’t be surprised if this green is exclusively offered as a...
  12. First Real Life Look! 2025 Jeep Recon Moab 4xe Concept Shown to Dealers at Stellantis Event

    Zooming in it looks like 285/70R17 So stock Wrangler Rubicon KO2 spec. I can dig it.
  13. First Real Life Look! 2025 Jeep Recon Moab 4xe Concept Shown to Dealers at Stellantis Event

    Now we’re talking! I really dig it. Looks like a Rivian R1S and a defender had a love spawn that was put up for adoption and raised by a Wrangler.
  14. Jeep Recon EV is powered by new Electric Drive Module (EDM) which "will help each platform achieve driving range up to 500 miles (800 km)."

    That thing looks wicked! Like you said, why they aren’t releasing any info is beyond me. Those pictures definitely get my excitement level back up though. Looks bigger than I would have thought. Rivian sized. I’m cool with that though. Maybe this is the start of the information train. Fingers...
  15. Jeep Recon EV is powered by new Electric Drive Module (EDM) which "will help each platform achieve driving range up to 500 miles (800 km)."

    All the legacy car companies that are getting into the EV market are doing the same thing so it totally makes sense that Stellantis is following in line. Hell, you or I could build a 500-mile EV in our garages if we wanted to. It's not rocket science. What Stellantis should be focusing their...
  16. Jeep Recon EV is powered by new Electric Drive Module (EDM) which "will help each platform achieve driving range up to 500 miles (800 km)."

    Yeah, I think it's a little disingenuous of Stellantis. They keep saying the platform is capable of it, but that really doesn't mean anything. Sure you can take basically any EV platform and cram enough batteries in it to make it go 500-miles. but the costs and weight just don't make it...
  17. Starting to think it’s Vaporware

    Literally zero information since announce. Not a single rumor, spy shot, or update. For a vehicle that was supposed to have pre-orders open up “early 2023” we should have seen evidence of this thing’s existence by now. Really starting to wonder if the Recon is actually real or of if it was just...
  18. Jeep Recon EV is powered by new Electric Drive Module (EDM) which "will help each platform achieve driving range up to 500 miles (800 km)."

    Highly unlikely. Can’t get away from physics. We’re talking about a large and heavy, brick-shaped vehicle with all-terrain tires. I just can’t see it getting anywhere close to 400-miles of range, let alone 450. Even Tesla with the most aerodynamic cars around doesn’t reach those figures. I...
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